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<Yperboreios> elege oti autoi pou milane gia tartara kai gia kolases den kseroun ti tous ginonte
<Yperboreios> ginetai
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<Nathaniel> ma den tous exoun giati htan xristianoi
<Nathaniel> alla giati h sofia tous htan anta3ia auths enos agiou
<Nathaniel> koinws, den aperriptan tipota an prwta den eixan proswpikh empeiria
<Yperboreios> o Swkraths htan demonolatrhs katarxin
<Nathaniel> kai daimonas htan o 8eos gia ekeinous
<Nathaniel> auto shmainei daimonas
<Nathaniel> h kanw la8os;
<Nathaniel> mporeis na peis oti etumologika osoi pisteuoun se kapoion 8eo, einai daimonolatres
<Yperboreios> oi daimones einai oi aggelioforoi twn Thewn
<Yperboreios> einai anwteroi apo ton an8rwpo kai katwteroi apo tous 8eous
<Nathaniel> den einai o Menelaos mesa
<Nathaniel> gia na se tapwsei twra, giati polla les xwris na 3ereis.
<Nathaniel> oi aggeloi sto xristianismo
<Nathaniel> einai oi aggeliaforoi tou 8eou
<Nathaniel> kai sthn agia grafh
<Nathaniel> legetai oti oi aggeloi den einai anwteroi apo ton an8rwpo
<Nathaniel> ki auto giati den exoun eleu8eria boulhshs
<Nathaniel> autos htan ki o logos tou kataklismou
<Yperboreios> katarxin mhn les oti den kserw giati opws ksereis eimai paganisths
<Nathaniel> ekptwtoi eixan katebei sth gh kai eixan parei kores ths euas gia gunaikes kai ekeines gennhsan gious se autous
<Yperboreios> oi paganistes kseroun perissotera gia tous arxaious apo oti oi xristianoi kai oi a8eoi
<Nathaniel> kai meta hr8e o kataklismos
<Nathaniel> kefalaio e3i
<Nathaniel> stixos e3i
<Nathaniel> nomizeis
<Yperboreios> ti exeis diavasei apo Platwna kai to paizeis oti ksereis thn apolyth alh8eia?
<Nathaniel> epeidh egw 8a pw oti eimai paganisths de shmainei oti 8a er8ei h 8eia fwtish kai 8a ginw pantognwsths
<Nathaniel> oxi
<Nathaniel> den paizw tipota
<Nathaniel> lew aplws auta pou exw diabasei
<Nathaniel> kai egw diastaurwsei
<Nathaniel> kai den katapinw mashmenh trofh
<Yperboreios> pes ti exeis diavasei apo Platwna ligo
<Nathaniel> tipota
<Nathaniel> tipota apolutws
<Nathaniel> alla to na diabaseis ka.ti de shmainei oti to katalabes
<Nathaniel> esu aporripteis mia 8rhskeia, krinontas apo ta shmerina dedomena kai tous shmerinous klhrikous
<Yperboreios> <Nathaniel> gia na se tapwsei twra, giati polla les xwris na 3ereis.
<Yperboreios> auto eipes prin
<Nathaniel> egw aperriya auth thn idia 8rhskeia epeidh de me antiproswpeuei
<Nathaniel> auto htan gia auto:
<Nathaniel> [19:26] <@Yperboreios> oi daimones einai oi aggelioforoi twn Thewn
<Nathaniel> [19:26] <@Yperboreios> einai anwteroi apo ton an8rwpo kai katwteroi apo tous 8eous
<Nathaniel> gia auto
<Nathaniel> ki egw milhsa gia thn etumologia ths le3hs
<Nathaniel> oxi gia kati pou eipe kapoios
<Yperboreios> o Platwnas elege oti oloi exoume mesa mas enan proswpiko daimona
<Yperboreios> auto to leei sthn Politeia
<Yperboreios> sto ergo tou pou legetai symposion leei oti oi daimones einai autoi pou fernoun mhnymata stous an8rwpous apo tous Theous
<Yperboreios> h' to anti8eto
<Yperboreios> pernoun tis proseuxes twn an8rwpwn kai tis pane stous Theous
<Yperboreios> kai fysika leei oti yparxoun pollwn eidwn daimones
<Nathaniel> tote mporeis na mou peis ti shmainei daimwn;
<Nathaniel> thn ennoia opws leei kai o Aiolos ;)
<Yperboreios> 8a sou pw ti leei o Swkraths gia to ti shmainei daimwn
<Yperboreios> miso na brw to keimeno
<Nathaniel> 8elw na mou peis ti shmainei sta neoellhnika h le3h daimwn
<Nathaniel> de 8elw na papagalliseis kati pou eipe kapoios pio sofos
<Yperboreios> SWKRATHS: Alh8eia,Ermogenh.Ti na shmainei arage to onoma .daimones.;Prose3e an sou
<Yperboreios> fanw oti lew kati spoudaio.
<Yperboreios> ERMOGENHS: Lege.
<Yperboreios> SWKRATHS: Gnwrizeis poioi, kata ton Hsiodo, einai oi daimones;
<Yperboreios> ERMOGENHS: Den gnwrizw.
<Yperboreios> SWKRATHS:Den gnwrizeis oute gia to xruso genos twn an8rwpwn,pou leei oti uphr3e prwto;
<Yperboreios> ERMOGENHS: Auto to 3erw.
<Nathaniel> perase ta auta kai phgaine ekei pou leei gia tous daimones
<Yperboreios> SWKRATHS: Leei loipon gi' auto: Molis to genos touto xwristhke se merh,oi daimones
<Yperboreios> agnoi ka. ghinoi onomazontai,lamproi,prostates apo to kako,fulakes twn an8rwpwn!
<Yperboreios> ERMOGENHS: Dhladh ti ennoeis;
<Yperboreios> SWKRATHS: Nomizw pws legontas xruso genos den ennoei ftiagmeno apo xrusafi,alla kalo
<Yperboreios> kai wraio.Apodei3h 8ewrw to gegonos,oti gia mas leei pws eimaste siderenio genos.
<Yperboreios> ERMOGENHS: Exeis dikio.
<Nathaniel> *
<Yperboreios> SWKRATHS: Pisteueis loipon oti kai an kapoios apo tous sugxronous mas einai kalos,
<Yperboreios> 8a mporouse na pei pws anhkei sto xruso genos;
<Nathaniel> o
<Nathaniel> +
<Nathaniel> * II. genikh onomasia gia tis arxaies ellhnikes katwteres 8eothtes.
<Nathaniel> [I1: msn. daimonas < arx. daimwn, ait. -ona `8eothta.,
<Nathaniel> ;)
<Yperboreios> SWKRATHS: Kata th gnwmh mou,auto perissotero ap’ otidhpote allo xarakthrizei tous
<Yperboreios> daimones.Epeidh htan sunetoi kai dahmones (sofoi),tous onomase o Hsiodos daimones.
<Yperboreios> Kai sthn arxaia glwssa mas to onoma auto antistoixei sto idio.Swsta loipon kai autos
<Yperboreios> kai alloi poihtes lene oti,an pe8anei kapoios enaretos,megalh tuxh kai times apoktaei
<Yperboreios> kai ginetai daimonas,sumfwna me thn onomasia ths fronhshs.Etsi kai egw loipon
<Yperboreios> antilambanomai ton dahmona,dhladh ka8e an8rwpo,8eiko oso zei kai afotou pe8anei,kai
<Yperboreios> nomizw oti swsta onomazetai dahmwn.
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<Nathaniel> nai nai nai
<Nathaniel> kai de lew oxi
<Nathaniel> miso omws
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<Dr_Feelgood> edw
<Nathaniel> prwton des auto
<Nathaniel> *<Nathaniel> o
<Nathaniel> +
<Nathaniel> * II. genikh onomasia gia tis arxaies ellhnikes katwteres 8eothtes.
<Nathaniel> [I1: msn. daimonas < arx. daimwn, ait. -ona `8eothta.,
<Nathaniel> Basika " autos pou 3erei " einai outos h allos anwtero on .
<Nathaniel> Daimon san le3h shmainei auto kai h ousia omws paramenei h idia ( to oti einai Ellhnikh le3h de xreiazetai na to pw egw ) .
<Nathaniel> des ki auto
<Nathaniel> Etumologika h le3h daimwn bgainei apo to "daw" pou shmenei gnwrizw
<Nathaniel> apo ekei bgainei kai h le3h hdhmwn (o eidikos).
<Nathaniel> kai auto
<Nathaniel> twra, oi filosofies tou swkrath h opoioudhpote allou
<Nathaniel> nai men lene kati swsto
<Nathaniel> alla de shmainei oti prepei na tis akoume xwris na tis yaxnoume
<Nathaniel> ki auto giati kanenas den einai sofos
<Nathaniel> oloi kanoume upo8eseis otan milame gia kati anwtero apo emas
<Yperboreios> poios eipe oti den to exw psaksei egw?
<Yperboreios> sou eipa prin eimai neoplatwnikos
<Nathaniel> den eipa na to ya3eis kai na to diastaurwseis
<Yperboreios> exw osa keimena arxaiwn 8es pou na lene oti oi daimones einai kales ontothtes
<Nathaniel> alla na kaneis kai dikes sou upo8eseis
<Nathaniel> kai na mhn afhnesai se auto pou sou leei kapoios h diabazeis
<Nathaniel> mporeis na deis kai dikes sou, proswpikes empeiries
<Nathaniel> kai na apofasiseis swstotera
<Yperboreios> emeis oi paganistes etsi tous exoume tous arxaious san daskalous
<Yperboreios> den bgazoume proswpikes apopseis
<Yperboreios> giati meta 8a leei o ka8e enas to makri kai to konto tou
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<Dr_Feelgood> xmmm, se ena pragma se paradexomai synadelfe
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<Nathaniel> auto einai anohto gia emena...
<Dr_Feelgood> oti eisai apolytos stis apopseis sou
<Dr_Feelgood> * synadelfos=Yperboreios
<AioLoS_Apwn> <Dr_Feelgood> oti eisai apolytos stis apopseis sou
<AioLoS_Apwn> oi bebaiothtes einai megaluteroi ex8roi ths alh8eias, ap' o,ti ta psemata.
<Dr_Feelgood> e?
<Dr_Feelgood> grrr , den exw xrono twra, paw na parw tin mikri ap tin enorgani kai ta leme meta
<Yperboreios> opws kai na to kanoume oi arxaioi den exoun sxesh me ton xristianismo
<Gipas> kalhspera
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<Nathaniel> opws kai na to kaneis, 8es na peis. giati gia emena exoun megalh sxesh me auta pou antiproswpeuei o xristianismos
<Nathaniel> geia sou Litsa
<Nathaniel> edehses na alla3eis nik;
<Nathaniel> :R
<litsa_never> kalhspera,wraio 8ema eixate shmera...to'xasa!!
<AioLoS_> den peirazei
<litsa_never> apla...enhmerwnomouna!!!
<Yperboreios> to 8ema einai na exeis diabasei kiollas polla biblia arxaiwn gia na ma8eis thn arxaia 8rhskeia
<litsa_never> kai den hmoun sunexeia edw!!
<AioLoS_> Mporeis na summetasxeis sto 8ema.
<Yperboreios> den mporeis na les oti den exeis diavasei Platwna kai na pisteueis oti ksereis pws kai ti einai h arxaia 8rhskeia
<Nathaniel> oxi bebaia
<litsa_never> sta arxaia...xreiazomai...fronthsthrio!!
<Nathaniel> opws kai de mporeis na les oti aporripteis kati prin to dokimaseis
<Nathaniel> mhpws sou 8umizei kati;
<Yperboreios> gia paradeigma gia thn Theourgia eimai sigouros oti den gnwrizeis
<Nathaniel> oxi
<Nathaniel> de gnwrizw
<Nathaniel> esu gnwrizeis;
<Yperboreios> nai
<Nathaniel> h swsth apanthsh makh einai: Exw diabasei 1-2 biblia
<Yperboreios> shmera einai anagkasthko na diavazeis arxaious pisteuw giati sta sxoleia den lene tipota
<Yperboreios> eidika an 8es na ma8eis sxetika me thn arxaia 8rhskeia prepei na diavaseis xronia
<Nathaniel> pragmati. einai aparaithto na to kaneis. oxi omws giati sta sxoleia de lene tipota. alla gia na gnwriseis ki alles apoyeis, na deis pws skeftontousan tote kai alla polla. na apoktiseis empeiries omws mesa apo ta matia kapoiou allou, oxi. auto einai geloio.
<Nathaniel> Auto isxuei kai gia polla alla omws Makh
<Nathaniel> blepeis gia tous arxaious (opws tous les)
<Nathaniel> to 1/2
<Nathaniel> isoutan me 2
<Nathaniel> oxi me miso
<Yperboreios> ston xristianismo den isxyei auto
<Nathaniel> ti;
<Nathaniel> PWS MPOREIS NA APORRIPTEIS GIA ALLH MIA FORA KATI POY DEN EXEIS DIABASEI?
<Nathaniel> Exeis diabasei estw kai ena apo ta apokrufa;
<Nathaniel> exeis akousei apospasmata, eimai sigouros
<Nathaniel> alla EXEIS DIABASEI ESTW KAI ENA?
<litsa_never> kalh sunexeia,ta leme!!
<Yperboreios> egw den exw diabasei?
<Nathaniel> 3ereis ti leei o Enwx;
<Nathaniel> Mporeis na mou peis ti leei to apokrufo euaggelio tou 0wma;
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<Nathaniel> Kata to 0wma ta paidika xronia tou xristou analuontai
<Nathaniel> kai mila mesa gia katastaseis pou 8a se ekanan satanisth sta matia pollwn
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<Nathaniel> mesa sthn agia grafh mila gia e3wghinous
<Nathaniel> to exeis dei;
<Nathaniel> 3ereis ti egine otan prospa8hsan na metabaloun th fusikh ta3h twn pragmatwn kai dhmiourghsan 4 diastaseis se ena ploio basizomenoi sto oti "oi aggeloi einai 6diastatoi toulaxiston"???
<Yperboreios> polly liakopoulo diavazeis
<Yperboreios> autoi exoun kanei thn zhmia shmera
<Nathaniel> liakopoulos;
<Nathaniel> xa0xa0xa0xa0xa0xa0xa0xa
<Nathaniel> eisai adahs
<Nathaniel> se auto to 8ema
<Nathaniel> se parakalw polu as to koyoume
<Nathaniel> prin pesei ki allo to epipedo... akous ekei liakopoulos. Diabase thn Agia Grafh
<Nathaniel> aperriye thn an 8es
<Yperboreios> egw exw diabasei palaia kai kainh diathikh
<Nathaniel> alla de nomizw kapou o platwnas h o swkraths h kapoios apo olous autous pou exeis diabasei
<Yperboreios> einai arketo gia ton xristianismo
<Nathaniel> na aperriye pote tou kati
<Nathaniel> Auto pou diabasese einai ena tipota
<Nathaniel> se parakalw, stamata. Den exeis idea th aperriyes
<Yperboreios> lol
<Nathaniel> de sou aresan kapoies katastaseis
<Nathaniel> kai auto einai olo
<Nathaniel> twra to ti ekanes to eauto sou na pisteuei...
<Nathaniel> einai allo 8ema
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<Yperboreios> me to zori na kaneis tous arxaious pro xristou xristianous?
<Nathaniel> oxi bebaia
<Yperboreios> ksexases ti legame prin gia tous daimones
<Nathaniel> einai blakeia auto. alla oti oi arxaioi eixan mia nota xristianismou
<Nathaniel> nai
<Yperboreios> oi arxaioi htan daimonolatres
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<Nathaniel> opws kai oi neoi
<Nathaniel> oloi mas
<Yperboreios> ara kamia sxesh me xristianismo
<Nathaniel> ma daimonas sto xristianismo einai kati entelws anti8eto
<Nathaniel> me auto twn arxaiwn
<Nathaniel> den einai to idio
<Nathaniel> xwneye to
<Yperboreios> gia neo mou to les?
<Yperboreios> to 8ema einai oti daimwn shmainei kati
<Yperboreios> kai kakos den shmainei
<Yperboreios> oute diabolikos
<Yperboreios> sthn ellhnikh glwssa
<Nathaniel> NAI ALLA STO XRISTIANISMO AYTO AKRIBWS SHMAINEI
<Yperboreios> den 8a afhsw egw ton xristianismo na allaksei kai thn ennoia ths arxaias Ellhnikhs glwssas
* xalima mes'ti fotia 8a peso kai mes'ta maura kimata.......
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<Nathaniel> mporeis na milas twra pia oso 8es gia auto to 8ema
<Nathaniel> de sou dinw allo shmasia
<Nathaniel> den 3ereis gia ti milas
<AioLoS_> O Xristianismos epeballe ena kosmoeidwlo to opoio antiti8etai me to arxaio.
<AioLoS_> allwste, autos htan o skopos tou.
<AioLoS_> na 8esei ena telos ston arxaio, paganistiko kosmo.
<AioLoS_> poso or8o htan auto, 8a to krinete monoi sas.
<Yperboreios> fysika
<Nathaniel> auto den to ekane o xristianismos aiole. auto to ekanan oi klhrikoi pou to phran panw tous
<Nathaniel> 3exasan oti einai edw gia na uphretoun
<Yperboreios> o xristianismos to ekane
* xalima kai an einai arga.......den einai arga gia 8aumata
<Yperboreios> me tous nomous ths palaias kai ths kainhs diathikhs
<AioLoS_> Suggnwmh, Nathaniel...
<Nathaniel> kala oti peis esu
<AioLoS_> oi klhrikoi den 8espisan ton xristianismo opws ton kseroume
<AioLoS_> oi Oikoumenikes Sunodoi eginan apo ton Xristo?
<Nathaniel> oxi bebaia
<Yperboreios> enas nomos ths palaias diathikhs leei oti o idios o 8eos edwse entolh na katastrafoun oloi oi arxaioi paganistikoi naoi
<Nathaniel> gia auto lew oti o xristianismos den to ekane auto
<AioLoS_> ma, o xristianismos den einai mia autonomh uparksh
<AioLoS_> einai mia 8rhskeia h opoia epeblh8h apo an8rwpous
<AioLoS_> an8rwpoi thn egka8idrusan
<AioLoS_> an8rwpoi th diathroun.
<Nathaniel> nai
<Nathaniel> alla auta pou lene twra oi an8rwpoi
<Nathaniel> einai entelws diaforetika apo ta prwta keimena
<AioLoS_> an diabaseis thn palaia dia8hkh 8a deis oti den allazei tipota
<AioLoS_> me to idio misos ex8reuontai ton allo8rhsko
<AioLoS_> oi skopoi twn metagenesterwn apo ta arxaia toys biblia phgazoun.
<Nathaniel> ma h palaia dia8hkh einai h mu8ologia. o xristianismos einai meta to xristo
<AioLoS_> Nathaniel
<AioLoS_> h palaia den kanei logo gia Messia?
<Nathaniel> nai kai bebaia
<AioLoS_> h palaia den kanei logo gia ton Abraam?
<AioLoS_> sthn Kainh den briskeis koina?
<Yperboreios> h palaia diathikh einai h riza tou xristianismou
<Nathaniel> koina nai. alla den einai to idio biblio, oute sthrigma gia ton xristianismo
<AioLoS_> einai to megalutero sthrigma
<Nathaniel> an 8es na diabaseis gia ton xristianismo 8a diabaseis ta panta
<AioLoS_> oi doksologies tous apo ekei phgazoun
<Nathaniel> ki oxi mono auta pou afhsan oi papades gia emas
<AioLoS_> oi proseuxes tous
<Nathaniel> nai
<AioLoS_> akomh ki otan pantreuesai ton xoro tou Hsaia den xoreueis?
<Nathaniel> dikio exeis
<AioLoS_> giati ton xoreueis?
<Nathaniel> nai kai bebaia
<AioLoS_> Ebraios eisai?
<Nathaniel> den eipa oti
<Nathaniel> oxi*
<Nathaniel> oute xristianos eimai omws
<AioLoS_> ti prospa8eis na peis?
<AioLoS_> isws egw na mhn se katalabainw.
<Nathaniel> koita
<Nathaniel> nai, oi papades ekanan thn 8rhskeia auth na einai gia ftusimo
<Nathaniel> nai den tous a3izei tipota apo osa do3azoun
<Nathaniel> nai se ola osa eipate
<Nathaniel> alla
<Nathaniel> an ya3ete na breite auta ta opoia pisteuan sthn arxh
<Nathaniel> ta prwta 100 xronia
<Nathaniel> 8a deite polla
<Nathaniel> de lew oti einai swsta
<Nathaniel> lew oti einai diaforetika apo ta shmerina
<AioLoS_> ennoeitai oti me ta xronia emploutizontai oi kosmo8ewriew.
<Nathaniel> OLA, ta panta osa lene oi papades einai mlkies. prepei na deis keimena oxi agiwn h apostolwn
<Nathaniel> giati kai ekeinoi prosulitismo kanane
<Nathaniel> na deis auta pou grayan oi profhtes
<AioLoS_> ena prama 8a sou pw prin kleisw file mou..
<Nathaniel> na deis ta apokrufa
<Nathaniel> pou apo mona tous einai mia nea 8rhskeia
<AioLoS_> prin thn eksaplwsh toy Xristianismou, den uphrxe h legomenh oikoumenikh 8rhskeia. Ka8e 8rhskeia htan e8nikh kai phgaze apo ta splaxna toy laou, thn idiosugkrasia tou, thn istoria tou kai ton fusiko tou topo.
<AioLoS_> mia 8rhskeia h opoia
<AioLoS_> prospa8ei na epiballei s' olous tous laous mia koinh nootropia gia to kosmoeidwlo, einai ek fusews lan8asmenh.
<AioLoS_> kai gia na epiballei kati tetoio
<AioLoS_> shmainei oti ta sumferonta einai pro pantwn politika kai oxi 8rhskeutika.
<AioLoS_> o Mesaiwnas einai mia politikh eksousia apo thn ekklhsia.
<AioLoS_> tipote allo.
<Nathaniel> gnwrizeis fusika oti olo auto den einai toso kalo oso fainetai. Nai men epiblh8hke, kai den htan swsto. Alla kanenas de skotwse gia na epiblh8ei. Toulaxiston den to ekanan sthn arxh alla mono otan mphke kai to sumferon mesa
<AioLoS_> logw sumferontos ksekinhse.
<Nathaniel> kai epishs gnwrizeis to telos twn "e3aplwtwn"
<Nathaniel> poio sumferon;
<AioLoS_> to xrhmatiko, ths aiwnias eksousias kai eumareias.
<AioLoS_> gnwrizeis ta peri periousiou laou tou Israhl, sthn Palaia D.q
<Nathaniel> nai nai nai
<Nathaniel> opws epishs kai ton katakthtiko polemo enantia sth Xanaan
<AioLoS_> ulopoieitai
<Nathaniel> nai den exeis adiko
<Yperboreios> Nathaniel pisteueis kai thn 8ewria pou leei oti o xristos htan Ellhnas?
<Nathaniel> lol
<Nathaniel> kalo
<Yperboreios> ama to pisteueis kai auto meta mhn les oti den diavazeis liakopoulo
<Nathaniel> Makh, sou 3analew.
<Nathaniel> den eimai xristianos
<Nathaniel> de blepeis kala
<Yperboreios> afou thn yperaspizesai
<Nathaniel> to oti uperaspizesai kati de shmainei oti to pisteueis
<Nathaniel> to idio mporei na uperaspistw kai tous paganistes
<Nathaniel> alla oxi giati eimai paganisths
<Nathaniel> alla giati 8a bre8ei kapoion
<Nathaniel> kapoios*
<Nathaniel> pou to paizei 3erolas
<Nathaniel> kai den exei idea gia ti pragma mila
<Nathaniel> mono kai mono epeidh den tou aresan auta pou diabase/akouse
<Nathaniel> paei kai kanei kati pou den a3izei na ginei
<Nathaniel> osh wra milousame
<Nathaniel> eniw8a oti milw se kapoion apoluto papa
<Nathaniel> h ston panta kai ton terru an 8es
<AioLoS_> sumfwnw me ton Nathaniel sto sugkekrimeno.
<AioLoS_> Uperboreie, eisai enas klhrikos ths E8nikhs 8rhskeias.
<Yperboreios> neoplatwnikos eimai
<Yperboreios> tou 21ou aiwna
<AioLoS_> an eixes th dunatothta, ta idia kai xeirotera 8a dieprattes enantion twn xristianwn, giati diakatexesai apo to idio misos.
<AioLoS_> kollate stis tampeles, alla oxi sthn ousia toy pragmatos.
<Nathaniel> ma kai autoi pou lene tous euatous tous e8nikous... tous eidate sthn thleorash prin apo kapoio kairo;
<Nathaniel> den pisteuw oti estw kai enas to kanei gia na mh ginei plousios
<AioLoS_> Nathaniel, oi ideologies einai ena periergo tripaki.
<AioLoS_> egw eimai E8nikososialisths kai akouw polla ka8hmerina, alla, osoi me gnwrizoun dixws na tous ekmusthreusw thn ideologia mou, me sumpa8oun.
<AioLoS_> einai megalo 8ema h ideologia, dustuxws.
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<Nathaniel> nai pragmati
<AioLoS_> dhmiourgei kollhmata, fobies, epifulakseis
<AioLoS_> tote katalabainw ton aneleu8ero
<AioLoS_> einai autos pou fobatai to ka8eti.
<Nathaniel> giati polloi pou 3eroun ti pisteuw gia tous e8ikososialistes (xwris pare3hghsh) de mou 3anamiloun
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<Apogonos_epsilon> helllo
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<Nathaniel> geia sou 8eiafh
<AioLoS_> polu wraia suzhthsh, sumfwneite na thn para8esw sto forum?
<Sulphur> epeiteloys phra thn mpempa (pc) apo to giatro..
<Sulphur> ax gia th to net na einai telika toso shmantiko sthn zwh mas
<Nathaniel> Aiole, de diafwnw.
